Become a member and get instant access to thousands of videos, how-tos, tool reviews, and design features. :-). The kiln or air-dried wood is very stable with little tendency to cup, check or twist.. 0000006032 00000 n 0000001387 00000 n "Hemp fir". I see a quarter inch shrinkage in 2x10 SPF floor joists KD as it is and have to account for it. Rose. The cost to kiln dry can run from $70 to $150 per MBF so it's been my suspicion that doug fir is dried to reduce shipping costs. Call us and find out more about this rare species of wood. 4 18 }Ib lIHRLsMes9J,\!f{D.%CmO;8~xd,`E +2ZW)= p" The young timber that is going into framing lumber has a pretty low ring count per inch. I would greatly appreciate any and all input you may have on this subject.

0000003637 00000 n This information is crucial for us to have and once we know these details, one of our staff will send you a free estimate of the cost of your order. Most of the framing lumber comes out of the heart and is pretty stable for the most part green or dry. It has a fine straight grain with little difference between heartwood and sapwood, which is uniform in color, ranging from creamy white to light gold. It is moderate in its hardness, stiffness, and shock resistance. I know that it tends to spit a little easier than green or wet lumber, but most of my work is with a framing gun so it works out just fine. Manufactured for either tongue-and-groove or lapped applications. 30`sH,IF`;%aJ)x8N "XEEK.$!BRs %0w3)z. We also offer trim, fascia and more. It can be a bit more of an issue on a small remodel when matching old, dry wood and new, but the shrinkage is pretty predictable. 0000007504 00000 n Get a free quote below and see if it will work for your project. Though the board is nominally called a 2x4 its net size may be 1.5 x 3.5 if it has been surfaced on all four sides. I knew you guys in the PNW use more green lumber, but still can't get iover it. The crown is attached to each, respectively. xref

Architectural milling is also one of the main uses. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. Dark streaks are often found in the lumber; these are caused by hemlock bark maggots and generally do not reduce strength. 21 0 obj<>stream Some say use KD, others say use green. Just an observation: Here in the PNW where a good portion of Doug Fir framing lumber is manufactured, it is quite rare to find KD. I have ordered 26' doug fir 2x10 KD that was so straight, then a guy (doensn't work here any more) drove over a couple of them with the forklift. I was not happy. An example of this would be to order a 2x4. It is OK for studs but does split and twist more than fir.

Note: all pictures are meant for a general grade description. %PDF-1.6 % Do your SR guys use more glue there maybe?I just saw this situation while inspecting a house the other day. 247 0 obj <>stream We reach across the country, all the way to the East Coast, West Coast, North and the South with a network of Common Carriers and trucks. 0000005126 00000 n Anyway, IMO, hem/fir is unsuitable for floor joists, especially long spans. my yard has their own mill too, and they bring in loads of greem rough 12x12 doug fir or so and can cut anything I want up to forty feet long. endstream endobj startxref There is a classification of frameing lumber known as hem/fir which can include trees from several related species, including hemlock and fir. Jobsite Saw PRO has a wider table, a new dust-control port, and a more versatile fence, along with the same reliable safety mechanism included in all SawStop tablesaws. HtTYo@~W#He{=jjUUE`mp_a%ocHh#Lr# n>q_ Eo&(?A-/?/(0eMS29AiL(on;$1\c}&,M6t1#~_:m(4&jg0e!E4faN+w%[7dali3MaY=]Hzl T@M( r#ao`X7[&TKp;5qsYd!z(j_ln>yhS Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox. In-depth articles, up-close photography, and detailed illustrations in every issue. I've heard we can get 2x12 26' KD without too much problem and a few years ago our lumber salesman said he heard of a guy locally that had ordered 2x12 28' KD. Hi w=_He >9gu~u}ArJ".~. This combination of stability and smoothness has also made Hemlock a favorite wood for the construction of saunas. Some say to use hemp fir, some say to use doug fir. hYn8~^6(RgXC8&Bmm;C(J.-H7,\kp.p"]i-Qk![$03@)Af-Hc It grows along the Pacific coast of Oregon and Washington and in the northern Rocky Mountains north to Canada and Alaska. I do use I-joists for floor systems, which helps. xb``g``: P30p,``K@bpV0150gja*ad`eZ$f@ |/ Basically KD only available in 2x4s. When ordering your Hemlock products it is important to understand lumber sizing. {4sX;nz The wood is intermediate in nail holding ability and has a tendency to split when nailed. c(ciDMhqh/kR;?asE$H%#JE@ j 9Xy Nbp Y/Z(,1>n1\`8K$PD]R! It is a clear grade of lumber which means that you are getting the very best. say that I expect to be a life-long subscriber." %PDF-1.6 % This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google. Other than than, she did not spec out lumber. Now, I am planning on doing a 1200+ sq foot addtion to my own home. If you dont see what you are looking for dont hesitate to email usand request a custom job. 0000000818 00000 n I've seen pretty dramatic shrinkage in 2x10s as they dried. I'll betcha that your bids for KD doug fir are the highest ofthe four choices you mentioned and the green hem/fir is lowest. 0 I use hemp to tie one on 0000001196 00000 n Good un!

Whether used extensively or in small decorative elements., Hemlock complements virtually any architectural style or design scheme. Drawing a full-scale picture on a scrap of plywood can help get the ridge looking straight. 0000000016 00000 n .V0)/ElGKZ )p3q2R{hB[5hN>_,w +i#4fQ5 Ou~oi)C_G; u> Hemp is best saved for ropes and entertainment. Get A Quote Today!

OKIll be the first to admit, I am not a framer! I have talked with a few fellow tradesmen here on the island that do much more framing and structural work than I do. http://www.bearcreeklumber.com/, normally, I'd go to Ijoists too. The 10-in. Lumber is generally going to be sold on what is called Nominal Sizingrather than Net Sizing. H0y The cabs sit on the floor which had floor joists that shrunk. 4}`L ?$To*W~ScCzm;c"EneDggMn"G_!P_tk%e0c'n:ERSH({*G!(&q) I can confidently Lower Grades are available in large quantities of 1,000 Board Feet or more. 0000005841 00000 n endstream endobj 5 0 obj<> endobj 6 0 obj<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB]>>/Type/Page>> endobj 7 0 obj<> endobj 8 0 obj<> endobj 9 0 obj<> endobj 10 0 obj<>stream As a side note, and as a sometimes timber framer, I find it ironic that some of the guys who resurrected timber framing in the 60's and 70's, initially extolled it's virtues as a hands-on back-to-our-roots form of craftsmanship, then became quite successful and evolved into selling frames of KD oak that turned out like fine furniture but had an inherent energy cost greater than the value of the wood. HtTn0+x+ ,_zz-( There are issues of cost (hemp is less by 1/3 than doug fir), ease of nailing (green easier than KD) and strength (doug fir is stronger than hemp). 495 T-W Eastside County Road Winthrop, Wa 98862, Washington Market Park : Architect Project, Custom Home in San Juan Islands : Contractor Project, Huntington Library Courtyard : Contractor Project, Robyn Home in San Juan Islands : Contractor Project, Alaskan Yellow Cedar Sauna : Homeowner Project, Hot Tub Room Paneling : Homeowner Project, Kilroy Home, Kauai HI : Homeowner Project, Recycled Redwood Railings and Deck : Homeowner Project, Western Red Cedar Entryway : Homeowner Project, Alaskan Yellow Cedar Bench : Manufacturer Project, Link to more technical information regarding Hemlock. What do you use hemp fir? Trees may contain wet wood and/or have ring shake. I am in the process of pricing out my lumber list. In order to give you the most accurate quote, we will need specific size, species, and grade information before we can prepare a custom estimate. 0000000656 00000 n If I needed that length for rafters, I'd use I-joists. 0000001474 00000 n Green hemlock lumber contains considerably more water than Douglas-fir, and requires longer kiln drying time. Home Species Lumber Species : Hemlock : Products. 0000006740 00000 n Clear Vertical Grain Hemlock is a great option for any project including a new one or a remodel. From these two basic types , we develop a number of paneling profiles by varying the surface design to complement any style or period of architecture or interior design. Western hemlock is moderately light in weight and moderate in strength. it is priced for door, window, staircase and trim manufacturing. With plaster it matters even less. We can email you pictures and grade rules. 0000004395 00000 n SawStop's Portable Tablesaw is Bigger and Better Than Before, How to Install Exterior Laminate PVC Siding, Podcast 478: PRO TALK With Home-Technology Expert Mike Bennett, Keep Craft Alive Podcast: Ep.16, Joe Cook and Travis Brungardt, Midwest Building Science Symposium, What's the Difference: Noncombustible vs. Fire-Resistant, Plus, get an extra 20% off with code GIFT20, 10 Steps to Install Crown Molding on Cabinets, Choosing the Right Construction Tape for the Job, Pretty Good House Book Excerpt: Copper Farmhouse, 10 Dos and Don'ts for Electric In-Floor Heat, Framing Stairs to an Out-of-Level Landing, Good-Looking and Long-Lasting Traditional Gutters, The Fine Homebuilding Interview: William B. Each has an argument on why they choose what they do. 0000001288 00000 n %%EOF

It can be pressure treated but is more effectively treated by a water diffusion process.Flame spread rating:73(class II or B)Smoke developed classification:80K value (12% mc): 0.89 BTU in.per square ft.h degrees FStability:It has moderately large shrinkage, about the same as Douglas-fir.Workability:Easy to work in all hand and machine operations and has little dulling effect on cutting edges. Grows from southern Alaska down to just south of San Francisco, and from the west coast all the way into Montana. I liver in the PNW and have NEVER used green lumber. Please use/discuss HEM fir: hemlocknot hemp fir which is probably illegal still:-D. As already implied, there is no such animal ( or vegetable) as hemp fir. ZEvpVKxZNdf># t hbbd```b``^"@$5 "A="Him0[wX}?d|fF@TVqAkZ}`$`D2Lz E,"yA$[ X, B" 0000000877 00000 n Otherwise, you will be your own next customer as a renovation project, refinishing to fix all the nail pops and open casing joints, etc that come about as the wood shrinks in curing in place. I want to get my quoting lined up by the end of this coming week so anything you guys (and ladies) can say on this subject would be great. Timbers - Select Structural, #1&BTR., #2&BTR., Boxed Heart, Free of Heart, Exposed Rough Full Sawn, Surfaced Specialty Timbers by the piece, Laminating Stock - L3&BTR., Rough or Surfaced, Green or Dry, Dimension Grades - S4S, Green or Dry, Premium, Select Structural, #1&BTR., Std&BTR., #2&BTR., Utility, #3, Economy, Studs - Green or dry Premium, 2/btr, Stud grade, Utility, Economy, Copyright @ 2022 Sierra Pacific Industries, PO Box 496028 Redding, CA 96049-6028 (530) 378-8000. I normally buy kiln dried doug fir 2x stock for all of my work. That estimate will include shipping based on the factors discussed above, and the information entered below. 2022 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved. When I need to frame out a partition wall or a new window, my choice of lumber is not a critical issue. And there are better quality caulkings available in this day and age. I hear a different story from each. ?4p$(sQ I use it mostly for sill beam replacements when needed, Oh yeah? Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. Even the trusses out here are of S4S green DF. It is satisfactory with respect to being glued and in taking stains, polish, varnish and paint. endstream endobj 12 0 obj<>stream ($H)$C]&]9R)A [#QZX}Z[|FCbAa+V.^d.Xgk#L If you need a particular net size of material, please be sure to make your sales representative aware of the exact net size so he can provide you with the right piece of lumber. /X/UJUQ8 -76o_6s7BQ%?$pF.0i~(tA8c?&T5L *fzhS8p}E"yo'P`%//WL 9E'-uTePX6`Hd|^O~iifyW7=@vG8] ".l(N^XB'42]Z3sNX]4(Skmk*C.o9*a>6s"#7AG$'$AW\ L< You can't make this stuff up, honestly. Excellence is its own reward! Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine. The overall uniformity of coloring from heartwood to sapwood, from light honey to a rich golden tan, and the woods excellent gluing properties make it ideally suited to finger jointing, edge veneering and laminating. 0000005937 00000 n A typical 2X6 stud might measure as much as 5 5/8" wide when "pond-dry green' but if it's matched up to old wood to split the difference, the 1/16" per edge disappears either with time or with a competent skim coat by the DW finisher. It yields clean straight edges and accurate contours to either machine or hand tools. But I know I can get the longer lengths even here. 0000002241 00000 n I would not use green lumber except to build a camp or garage or unless the house would be left standing for a year before insulating and finishing with SR. _R]$ If you want to see a more defined grade image, please let us know. +b=pICt|e3?' {s]wb; A&&.f[Z0jX`hXWcYy8i&pQAA8 b 40 The wood often contains small, sound, black knots that are usually tight and stay in place. The sapwood, which is sometimes lighter in color, is generally not more than 1 inch thick. Appearance is almost identical to amabilis fir. If you are unsure of any of these specifications, our sales staff can offer you a variety of choices to work with, contact us today. Erik Stein, Wa Omaste, Attached are some images of an entry table made of Western, Robyn Home in San Juan IslandsCustom Home Built By Lowe ConstructionGet a Free Quote Here, Wolf Creek Road RemodelWestern Red Cedar, Hemlock Railing, IPE Decking and Flooring, Douglas Fir Post, Get pricing online using our custom quote request form below, or call us now: 1-(800) 597-7191. Other Common Names: West Coast hemlock, Pacific hemlock, British Columbia hemlock, hemlockspruce, and western hemlockfir.In doors, windows, staircases, louvered cabinets, mouldings, spindles and paneling, hemlock has a reputation for excellence in form and function. It has moderately large shrinkage, about the same as Douglas-fir. D*5m`5 2 dWjp GI S Even with dehumidification kilns, it's a pretty energy intensive process, and with fewer and fewer mills with hog fuel boilers, the primary heat sources are bunker C, fuel oil or natural gas. 0000002910 00000 n Most of the KD is shipped back east. See how the crown has ben pulled away from it's joint? The heartwood and sapwood of western hemlock are almost white with a purplish tinge. trailer But sheetrock is put up with your favorite screws, using nails to initially place it, so nail pops really aren't an issue. Signup below and be first in line for the latest lumber news, special deals and insider information each week.

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